8/29/2010 10:00:46 PM
Topic:
Teaching in China at Age 60? Why not?
JourneyEast.org
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Yeah um, not a great idea to work illegally and make money on a tourist visa. It is very illegal and you might as well have a big sign on your hat that says check out my passport!
Then, lets say you get that job - how are you going to convert the visa? L and Fs are non-convertable in almost all major cities now.
If you are between the ages of 60-63 its not so difficult, 64 and above and it becomes very difficult.
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8/29/2010 11:13:13 AM
Topic:
Teaching in China at Age 60? Why not?
ersl
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You can get a job at 60 or over. This is what you do; get a 3 month tourist Visa, or if in the US you can get a 12 months visa. Got to one of the big cities like Shenzhen, Shanghai and Beijing carrying a brief case with a sign on it with your name, fake of course, and that you are an English Tutor, don't write teacher, and a local phone number. Jut do lots of walking, and got to crowded places and sit around with your brief case open on your lap. You'll make very good money and have great time too. Now this is the key; you are not a teacher, you are a TUTOR. I knew giy who was 90 in Shenzhen doing that exact thing. He had so many jobs it was nearly killing him
If any one gives you hard time about your age just tell them that you are younger than Hu Jing Tao! I put that on my Resume at the very top and they love it!
"Foreign Teacher Apartments are usually on the fifth floor and no elevator." Journey East, go all the way, please. What kind of generalist jerk are you? I have been in China for 7 years and I've almost never lived higher than the 3rd floor for a walk up and they do have lifts for higher flats. Schools are savvy? What's that about? They judge us by the locals who rareley make it to 60, now that's savvy!
Also if you have minimal qualifications you can get into small city university. Include a video of yourself doing a work out with your resume with the caption,"Younger than Hu Jing Tao."
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8/27/2010 11:45:44 PM
Topic:
Teaching in China at Age 60? Why not?
Hugo
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I do know of one person doing this in China (he's 62), but as with many places, I know it's much more difficult to find work at that age. Have even known people to have difficulties at younger ages, even in their forties, but it does depend on the school.
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8/24/2010 2:19:34 PM
Topic:
Finding a job in china after septemeber first?
Guest
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It's pretty hard right now. I'm a certified teacher with three years in class experience, a native speaker. I can only imagine how much more difficult it will be in September.
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8/24/2010 5:52:33 AM
Topic:
GOLD STARS Lea Walker and Chinese Culture Center
Rebecca Weber
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I'm now working for the second year in China thanks to Lea Walker and the Chinese Culture Center. My first year was amazing. Lea Worked so hard to find me a good job in Kunming, but because the pay is so low she also found a second job in Beijing and offered me the choice. The website clearly states what Lea's responsibilities are and there is a non-refundable clause for everyone to read. I sorry for those that decided not to come because of the H1N1, but that was their choice. The Chinese Culture Center offers 10 years of placement services for the $998 fee which is a pretty good deal if you're thinking long term. Even for those thinking of coming short term $998 is a small price to pay peace of mind and security.
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8/23/2010 9:50:44 PM
Topic:
Can I bring my fiance to China?
brenda
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I think it would be almost impossible to have that person work together with you if they weren't a native speaker, even if they were very proficient, you may be hard pressed to find a good employment situation that will accomodate both of you. But I do wish you the best of luck!
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8/23/2010 9:48:17 PM
Topic:
medical for 1 year visa- why do it twice?
JourneyEast.org
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Because sometimes, people lie on their medical forms. Employers have to verify the medical information to ensure that the employee is medically certified for employment.
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8/23/2010 1:03:49 AM
Topic:
medical for 1 year visa- why do it twice?
asdfg
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About 8 years ago i went to teach in china for about a year (i'm aussie). I did this big long medcial test for the visa before i went- my doctor actaully laughed at it, he thought it was funny. It was very time consuming and expensive. When i got to china they took me to do all the bloods, ecg, x ray etc again. I asked why, they told me a new dissease had just come to china so they had to chekc all the ppl coming in, later i found out thats when sars had started, so i thought that must be it
however, recenlty i had a friend go and and she also had to do it again, i'm not sure why?
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8/22/2010 9:12:53 PM
Topic:
Can I bring my fiance to China?
JourneyEast.org
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Nope.. You would have to be family in order to be co-joined on the invitation document..
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8/22/2010 9:10:43 PM
Topic:
Finding a job in china after septemeber first?
JourneyEast.org
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Well, it depends on a number of factors, generally speaking, you can. But it is not easy and you have to remember, the invitation documents will take on average 30 days to come back from the govt. and this comes only after you have signed a contract. Most schools that are worth any salt are already staffed. The few which arent, are usually those that you have to ask, "How Come?"
We might have one position left for the Fall, give Lisa a call Monday to inquire about it. Or if She isn't back ask for Keith or Brock.
PS> design your CV to reflect your qualifications and experience to how they will be on the day of your departure.
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8/22/2010 3:06:02 PM
Topic:
Finding a job in china after septemeber first?
wtaylor
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Is it possible to find a good job in china after September first? I understand the school starts than but I recently decided that China is where I want to teach. The problem is my TESOL course is not finished until the first week of September. So I wouldn't be able to have all my documentation ready for September first. After this date does it become difficult to find a job in China?
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8/22/2010 2:11:13 PM
Topic:
Can I bring my fiance to China?
jasmina
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I think if we were married in China,we wouldn't need authentication right? But how can I get him to China in thefirst place? Can my employer put him on the invitation letter even thoughhe is in Sri Lanka right nowand I am in the US? Or would this be too much of a problem for my employer? Maybe they won'twant to do it? What about if I just get my working visafirst, start working and then sponsor a tourist visa for him. Then afterwe are married, I guess I would have to add him to my visa or possibly redo thewhole visa?
I would appreciate any suggestions.... This is so confusing. I am already interviewing for jobs, but I do not want to work in Chinaunless my fiancé / husband can be there with me.
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8/21/2010 12:37:33 AM
Topic:
Did I Get Scammed??
ronnie
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Hello,
I too missed out in 2009 due to swine flu concerns and merely left my deposit with United States Chinese Culture Center. I ask for and was returned my passport, Please do not panic; you are working with a reputable organization in USCCC. Lea Walker is professional, knowledgeable and diligent. I just returned from Zhejiang Province China under her organizations sponsorship as promised in the contract. I hearissue all these complaints and witnessed members of my teaching group, some of whom had less than stellar experiences some due in part to personal preparation, style, flexibilit and adaptability. Continue to work with the organization and the end result will be a wonderful experience.
/regards
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8/21/2010 12:04:10 AM
Topic:
Chinese Culture Center EXTORTION
ronnie
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Extorted wrote:
Lea Walker and the Chinese Culture Center are argued and talked about quite a bit on these forums. But please take this into account: the positive reviews given to her in the past few days were recieved because of extortion. Ms. Walker sent the email below to teachers that just returned from China. In it she attacks critics by name, claims a tacit endorsement from the University of South Carolina's legal department and tells returning teachers she WILL NOT SEND THEIR FORMS UNTIL THEY VISIT THIS SITE AND POST POSITIVE REVIEWS. This is extortion pure and simple. Please read this and take the positive reviews with a grain of salt. I have attached a screenshot of the email to prove that this is not just made up by a jilted teacher. Ms Walker did what she was required to do AT A MINIMUM. She bungled most of the process and was entirely unprofessional but she never committed a crime until I read this email.
If you respond to this message please keep your identity secret as Ms Walker constantly monitors these forums for information she thinks may hurt her business.
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8/20/2010 11:06:28 PM
Topic:
Chinese Culture Center EXTORTION
Jake_Shaoxing
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I'm sorry for your bad experience. My experience involving Chinese Culture Center and Lea Walker were fine. I read some of these reviews and I am not sure what happened. My placement was good. All I know is that I had some issues with my contract at my school, and she was very helpful. Here's what happened, the original contract I signed said that the school would fully reimburse me for my plane tickets to and from China. About half way through the first semester, the school tried to change the contract so they would not fully reimburse my return ticket. Lea Walker helped me with the school so that they made sure to fully reimburse me like originally promised. Without her, I would not have been fully reimbursed. I seriously doubt Ms. Walker is trying to extort you.
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8/20/2010 3:09:09 PM
Topic:
Chinese Culture Center EXTORTION
Extorted
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A private message sent over this site from Lea Walker today:
"I just read your posting as Extortion! What was wrong with your visa? You don't feel ashamed when you are lying? All the 13 teachers in your group got work visas without any problem. Can you name any one in your group with visa problems? You did not do a good job for your school, and want to blackmail us into issuing you a TESL Certificate? You are the Extortion, and you got a right name for yourself!"
Again, while Ms Walker's words don't have anything to do with whether or not you'll enjoy your time in China, just remember the antagonism you will get to experience whenever contacting the person meant to provide you a link when you have problems at your school
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8/20/2010 11:33:49 AM
Topic:
chineseculturecenter.org - Summer Program SCAM!
ajessekennedy
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Hi, everyone!
I would like to express once again that I posted the truth for my experience with Lea Walker and the CCC. She did a great job for me, and I did not post my previous comment because I felt "threatened" by Lea's email. I think she just wanted both sides to be presented on this website. As for the TESL certificate being used as blackmail, I do/did not need the TESL certificate as I am a certified public school English teacher with a state teaching license approved under the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001. I do not discourage the use of this forum as an open discussion; by all means, please converse about this.
Again, I am posting a second comment to clarify the extortion comment on my end. I do not feel extorted in any way and I am completely satisfied with the way Lea handled my visa, job placement, flights, etc.
"There are two sides to every coin."
-Jesse, Xiangfan University Fall 2009 group
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8/20/2010 9:05:00 AM
Topic:
must get BA degree to apply Z visa to teach here?
little.cat.run
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i wonder a way without BA degree to get a stable ESL job in China. but it seems impossible? 
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8/20/2010 12:29:38 AM
Topic:
Chinese Culture Center EXTORTION
Extorted
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Lea Walker and the Chinese Culture Center are argued and talked about quite a bit on these forums. But please take this into account: the positive reviews given to her in the past few days were recieved because of extortion. Ms. Walker sent the email below to teachers that just returned from China. In it she attacks critics by name, claims a tacit endorsement from the University of South Carolina's legal department and tells returning teachers she WILL NOT SEND THEIR FORMS UNTIL THEY VISIT THIS SITE AND POST POSITIVE REVIEWS. This is extortion pure and simple. Please read this and take the positive reviews with a grain of salt. I have attached a screenshot of the email to prove that this is not just made up by a jilted teacher. Ms Walker did what she was required to do AT A MINIMUM. She bungled most of the process and was entirely unprofessional but she never committed a crime until I read this email.
If you respond to this message please keep your identity secret as Ms Walker constantly monitors these forums for information she thinks may hurt her business.
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8/20/2010 12:07:43 AM
Topic:
chineseculturecenter.org - Summer Program SCAM!
Extorted
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Unfortunately the glowing reviews recently given are not something the ones who wrote them decided to do. Lea Walker sent an email a few days ago that not only trashed the people who wrote on this forum but also made this demand:
"Before we issue you the TESL Certificate, you need to do one more homework to complete your TESL Internship: Please visithttp://China.eslteachercafe.com to find some slanderous/abusive comments about Lea Walker and/or Chinese Culture Center. Please register as a member to some of the forums with your real name as user name, and make your own counter comments from your own experiences with us. You may also upload your photos from the summer camps to the forums. Then please email me your online comments with a couple of your photos taken in China by reply to this email. We might post your photos and comments to our website."
I won't give many other personal details because Ms. Walker is reading this and attacking those that don't appreciate her. In the group I went with, half had problems with visas, placement, or reimbursement that were directly related to her incompetence. Be very wary when using her service and remember that she does not play by the book. This is not someone with either an American or a Chinese sense of professionalism.
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