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7095
7095
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Posts: 147

12/4/2007
There are a number of notorious independant recruiters who offer unethical job placement in China.
They go by several aliases;

Jieling Chen (of Colorado)
Frank Zhang
James Zhang
CECILLE BAUTISTA
MBOSI CLETUS
Sang Xing
Anthony Martin
Paul Adler
David Smith
Michael Simpson
Malcolm MacDonald
Tim Chen
Jeff Chen

He has been reported to use the following websites to scam unsuspecting foreign teachers:
abroadchina.org
tefl.cc
eslteachersboard.com
chinatefl.net
teach-in-china.net

NEVER SEND ORIGINAL DIPLOMA OR CASH OVERSEAS!!!
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moidixmois08
moidixmois08
Posts: 1

11/10/2008
That was a close one for me...

So..Jeff Gao/Sya was an alias, hm. I've spoken to him on the phone before.

"Rustic Volunteer and Travel" works with this Jeff Sya.

Thanks for the warnings. I almost followed through with this.

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Guest
Guest
Posts: 205

11/10/2008
Global Crossroads also works in cooperation with Jeff Sya (Gao is his real name), who will very likely attempt to place you in a International Korean school that has one of the worst reps in China.
The contract he offers is with his company, (Sya Edu) not the school. The salary and benefits are very substandard. Additionaly, he garnishes a third of your salary on top of the commission he earns. Jeff Gao (Sya) is merely a English teacher with some web skills.

I forgot to mention, he also recruits from MySpace and Facebook and has profiles on both sites.

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meganelizabeth
meganelizabeth
Posts: 2

1/25/2009
it seems that IFRE also work with Jeff Gao (SYA Company)!! i think i may have fallen for his trap...
how do you know that jeff gao's company is illegal?? i'm stressing out because i have already paid a deposit to IFRE (i think they are a sub organisation of Gobal Crossroads(!!!!)) and Jeff has emailed me an inventory for my teaching schedule in Chengyang, Qingdao from April til July this year!!! Has anyone delt with him first hand? is it really that bad? he said he already has 8 other english teachers ready to start in feb!! please write back asap!!!

and....if i do pull out, anyone have any ideas where I can teach English without a Bachelor degree in China??

thanks so much guy, you may have just saved me a lot of heart ache later this year!!!

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Guest
Guest
Posts: 205

2/4/2009
The following schools ( and people) are all crap and scum, and must be avoided:

1) Juren ( TDM Language College, Wuhan ) Avoid all branches, TDM is run by a lying criminal and thief called "Woody" Ding. He is a coward who lives in Canada. If anyone knows his current location and full address, please e-mail me.

2) Mandy Roborts, the notorious Hangzhou based recruiter, this woman is a fraud and a pathological liar. Calls her "business", "Sunny Education", she had a sidekick, "Icecream Lynn", teachinchina@yeah.net AVOID!

3) Seems superflous to name him again, but Frank Zhang is probably the most evil recruiter in China ( maybe in Asia ) He is based out of Shanghai, has many aliases, the most well known one is probably "Sang Xing". If you are looking for work in Shanghai ( my involvement with him was there) look out for him, but he is also known to operate in other locations.

4) All EF schools, however the Changchun and Nanning branches are particularly terrible. EF is a blight on ESL, and on Asia in general.

5) "Shanghai Yulun Education Group". Based in Shanghai, this organization is run by a parasite called Charles Chen, a Frank Zhang wannabe, this man will lie to you and decieve you, he is a recruiter who places teachers at illegal and crap schools.

6)TAIS ( Thai American International School, Bangkok ) Another crap training school that never delivers anything it promises. Run by a piece of scum called Chirasak Chantapattana. This "school" has very poor academic standards, does not pay its teachers, however grossly overcharges its students ( no prizes for guessing where the money goes!)

7)Owen College, Yangshuo, China. This school has a terrible reputation. Avoid any school that has "Buckland", or "Buckland group" associated with it.

8)Suihua College Heilongjiang ( Or "Suihua University" ) This place has low academic standards, abusive and lying bosses, this is a cesspool of lies, greed and incompetence.

9) Yuncheng IELTS "School". Yuncheng IELTS schhol is not a school at all, it is a recruiting organization. IELTS is not taught there, never has been. Totally unprofessional, rife with incompetence. Avoid!

10) Kidcastle ( All branches ) Only a fool would work for them given the voluminous number of complaints this organization has recieved. This company constantly hires unqualified, inexperienced teachers, does not pay its workers, illegally employs teachers on L visas. Bullying and corruption is commonplace. AVOID!

11) Web International: Same as EF and Kidcastle, Web International Suzhou has a particularly bad reputation. Avoid at all costs!

12)New Century Dalian: The worst training school in China. You are risking your health ( and possibly your life) working at this school. Corruption, bullying, and physical violence are what a teacher can expect at New Century. Teachers have been threatened with violence and death for exposing this schools evil ways, some teachers HAVE been physically beaten.

13) ICR ( I can read ) Suzhou. This crap school is under the control of a nasty Singaporean women called Kristen Ng. Bullying is common at this school which "teaches" kids. Deductions are made from teachers salaries for the most trivial reasons, classes are rescheduled without notice, the TA's there ( as usual) are nasty vidictive young Chinese girls, who make up stories about the behaviour of FT's, and report it to Kristen. Kristen by the way,is a Singaporean who knows nothing about education, and has no management skills.

14) Tianshou ( Jilin Province Educational Exchanges Service Organization ) I have posted many warnings about Tianshou here before. As bad as new Century Dalian, or TDM Wuhan. Never work for these criminals, eg: Kiki Baining, Maggie Wang. AVOID!

15)Santana English School, Zhuhai, also Fountain English School.

16) Any Aston franchise, Aston Wuhan is particularly bad.

Hope this list is helpful for all new teachers, I will be naming any more crap schools I happen to come across in the future.

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7095
7095
Administrator
Posts: 147

4/18/2009
URGENT, NEW SCAM WARNING !

Beware of any job offers received from: gz-employment@sohu.com

EMAIL WE RECENTLY RECEIVED:
i'll explain my situation. I applied for coaching job in Shangai at XaioChun Football Club. The club accepted my CV and then said i needed to speak to the person below Mr Wang Dan which i did get in contact with assuming this was the way to go about things. However Mr Wang Dan said i needed to pay $370 for Allien Employment Contract which i did do. Attached are the forms which i completed and sent back. Then he asked me to pay $1094 for authorisation from Public Security Bereau. I have not done this yet, but also asked for me to send birth certificate, reference and my coaching award which ive sent. Then i was checking if this is right and to me it looks like a scam. He has also provided me with Photo Id's of the people who are looking into my file. I've tried to contact the football club on 0086 132 5078 2202 but no one speaks english. I will forward emails which they have sent me. Can i have someone responding to tell me if these people are doing a scam or is it for real?

Mr Wang Dan also said if i go straight to ministry of law then he'd cancel the application

thanks

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Subject: Alien Contract Registration Forms
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:17:39 +0000

Attn: Jignesh Patel,

We have confirmed the payment so we hereby sending the copy of the Allien Employment Form and the Registration form.

This form is written in English and Chinese Language, you are required to print it out,fill all the blank spaces,, sign your signtaure and send it back to us.

If we receive the filled form, we shall foward it to the processing department to review it and initiate the requirements for processing your Authorization Letter with other important documents from the Labour and Public Bureau.

Kindly Inform your employe to instruct you on how to fill the forms to avoid making any mistakes.

Any foreigner seeking employment in China shall meet the following conditions.

(1) 18 years of age or older and in good health;
(2) with professional skills and job experience required for the work of intended employment;
(3) with no criminal record;
(4) with valid passport or other international travel document in lieu of the passport (hereinafter referred to as the "Travel Document")
Thank you for your anticipation.

Yours Faithfully

Mr.Wang Dan

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j lowther
j lowther
Posts: 1

5/29/2009
This scam has also been advertised on the website www.mybesttennis.com for a tennis coach.
The Tennis Academy also ask us to contact gz-employment@sohu.com, who ask for the same amounts of money for Alien employment forms.
We have informed the site that it is a scam but they have not removed the ad.
These people in China try to hurry things along by giving only a few weeks before the contract commences, the letter we received was very similar to the one shown.
However the contact name was Mr Chong Lee, our suspicions were aroused when it was asked that the money be sent to a particular person rather than a company name.
This person was DURUAKU MICHAEL ODUNZE.

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worldtraveler
worldtraveler
Posts: 3

6/10/2009
YOU CAN ADD THE CHINESE CULTURAL CENTER OUT OF COLUMBIA SOUTH CAROLINA AND THEIR DIRECTOR LEA WALKER

SHE STOLE OUR MONEY AND PASSPORTS

THE UNIVERSITY THERE IS TRYING TO SHUT THEM DOWN FOR FRAUD

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jezdobbs
jezdobbs
Posts: 2

7/4/2009
i must take issue with some of the wildly unsubstantiated claims made by "guest". really, i do think that a person who makes serious accusations about others should have the courage to show their face, and give their name. i work at fountain school and i can tell you all that it is a well-run and serious private english language school with professional management and staff who do a pretty good job of teaching the language. to list schools as "crap" and people as "scum" in this way suggests to me a person with - let's say issues, to say the least.

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sarahong
sarahong
Posts: 1

7/22/2009
Also add Forest Yuan, terrible man who doesn`t know a thing about education and treats is staff like %!""
Avoid his school, OKiki ( Shanghai ) , because it is very hard to leave without having him hunting you down with legal letters and blackmail.
Only been open 3 years, but so far had more then 400 staff members ! Meaning , very few people are actually happy working there,
I worked in 7 places before and this is by far my worst experience ever

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GOOD SAMARITAN
GOOD SAMARITAN
Posts: 1

8/22/2009
HERE IS ANOTHER IMPORT SCAM WARNING FOR THAILAND IF ANYONE IS THINK ABOUT COMING TO TEACH THERE

TESOL-ASIA / DIALOGUE TUTOR SCHOOL / TOP TEACHERS / OONRAK BILINGUAL SCHOOL'S RECRUITER

YOU CAN VISIT www.tesol-asia.co.cc and www.tesolasia.weebly.com TO LEARN HOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF


Please read and protect yourselves from the illegal and abusive scams conducted by John Auger in Suratthani, Thailand. He operates his business using several names to avoid detection on warning blogs and forums. He uses the following names for his business' TESOL-ASIA / DIALOGUE TUTOR SCHOOL / TOP TEACHERS and he also does the recruiting and hiring for OONRAK BILINGUAL SCHOOL in Suratthani, Thailand. This website has all the details you need to know to avoid getting scammed by this agency. www.tesol-asia.co.cc and www.tesolasia.weebly.com

"ALL THAT EVIL PEOPLE NEED TO SUCCEED IS FOR GOOD PEOPLE TO STAND BY AND DO NOTHING" ...... DO SOMETHING NOW! The website contains a BLOG and a page for your TESTIMONIALS. Please post your stories so other teachers will know the truth about TESOL-ASIA / DIALOGUE TUTOR SCHOOL / TOP TEACHERS / OONRAK BILINGUAL SCHOOL'S RECRUITER

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NoWAY
NoWAY
Posts: 48

8/28/2009
shopping list.. there is underhandedness everywhere you turn.. sadly. I've come hear of quite a few.. I'll list those I heard of.. but, just watch out.. as there 100s more.. literally! It behooves everyone to list them and your experiences otherwise, just more of our innocent Countrymen will fall into the "traps".

Many schools are not authorized to have Foreigner Teachers (so check it out first.. contact the International Public Security Bureau, the Provincial Education Bureau...for contact info..just search online. If you phone and the person answering can't speak any English.. you've got the wrong number or dept) So, many schools will recruit nearly anyone who looks like they can speak English including fugitives, illegal immigrants/visitors, foreign students (most common), foreign travelers, and many who would be otherwise the worst and/or most unqualified Teachers in the World. Many Western Schools require a Master's degree plus 2yr Teaching Internship with mandatory Certification exam, sometimes even periodic recertification. There are also mandatory Government surveys of School overall abilities and Teachers performance as to level and methods offered for student graduation or failures which both School and Teacher is held accountable.

Oh.. if you're a Caucasian.. be very weary of Photo Ops.. there will be many people/officials wanting to take photos with you.. and your mug could (more than likely) will be used in a advertisement or poster or something of the nature. Remembering that more often than not..too many stories of how working relationships deteriorate and end with Bad feelings and sometimes even worst memories. These English language production companies care first of the bottom line.

Xian, Shaanxi Training Schools.. near and around TV Tower, and the prestigious Jiaotong University near the South Wall, east corner, and downtown .. within the City Wall. Bad situation stories heard include Kidcastle, Kindergarten Schools, Gallop, Williams, Krazy, Royal International, TC Best, Sun Moon, New Oriental ..others. And, note.. many joint venture Training schools include quiet, silenced, or sinister Western partners. Even one American guy has a school for profit (oh, excuse me.. a Private English Training School)... Bill or Will or Willis or William? (I think it's the latter)

Colleges.. some private schools even translate their English name "intentionally" incorrectly from Chinese. (Chinese name is clear to identify the name to be an Institute) and advertise in most conspicuous manner, Train Stations, TV, Periodicals, Even News articles in English. Provincial Authorities are aware but will not intercede: Includes XIU (Xian International University), XFU (Xian Fanyi University), Eurasia University, and several others.

Several lower level Colleges, Private Schools, and Training Centers commonly use the Prestigious and far more Prominent Names of their affliliate Schools.. such as Ming De College.. but the Name on a HUGE Campus Gate Sign is Northwest Polytechnical University with a much smaller 1/2meter by 1/2meter brass sign stating MingDe College. Jiaotong University Name is also propagated to maximum yield by way of Private Businesses engaged with a multiple of Signage, name cards, brochures, and advertising literature.

The fundamental problem is that many non-English, Developing countries just can't entice the Professional Teachers to come so.. in sheer desperation.. hire the next or last best thing. Coupled with the simple fact the Foreign Dept Heads don't understand, appreciate, or accept the sacrifices that Westerners endure as this the living conditions today are the best ever here in China.. so no comprehension of how anything could possibly be better than what they've got.. so, with this in mind.. what if there's no electricity in your apt for a few weeks, or no Air Conditioner/Heaters in classrooms or Apartments, breaks in windows and missing or torn screens, toilet has an disgusting odor anyone could smell at 500yds, ceiling/roof leaks from faulty plumbing and/or during rain, or a few light bulbs will never be replace.. But be reassured.. that during the summer break skilled workers will come make all repairs. Yeah right.. everyone (including the workers) go home!

Just see which Leaders of which schools are driving the most expensive Western Cars.. see what I mean? Teaching of English is a money making machine/industry. A means for a better life than what is commonly available... my views.. my ideas.. my free speech!

Hope this helps.. and not to make it even more confusing.. as it can be most confusing and irritating. Bring a large bottle of Aspirin and a crate of patience! Tranquilizers may be most useful too.

If there is a Be-WARE online existing list or posting for School Name only.. let me know.
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Butler
Butler
Posts: 1

11/4/2009
I agree with jezdobbs, "must take issue with some of the wildly unsubstantiated claims made by "guest". really, i do think that a person who makes serious accusations about others...."

I have been working for the same kid castle for 6 years. And am now the manager and part owner of the company. We have teachers that have been with us for 2 or 3 years as well as a foreign support staff that deals with training and scheduling who have been with us for 5 years. Our company is a good place to work and we use the kid castle brand name. The problem is not due to the Kid Castle head office (though they should be more concerned with what franchise owners our doing to their name) The blame mostly lies with the people running these schools. It is a shame that poor business practices of local business owners causes problems for others who while wishing to make money (as is the purpose of any company) wish to do so in a way that betters and futures the education of their students as well as the satisfaction of their clients and staff. I have seen many people cringe when I tell them where I work but I have also seen a lot of surprised people when they discover that we are a good school to work for then end of staying longer than they had planned in China due to the assistance we give our staff.

So many stories about horrible schools circulate about China and many of them are true. It's just sad that many people don't write about the good experiences they have while working here.

No matter which school you work for, if it be private or public. You need to do your research, you need to talk to the person hiring (best if they are a foreigner), talk to the teachers already working, visit the school, watch some classes, talk to the staff members and never sign anything unless you feel that the company and you are a good fit. And never ever just give over copies of your passport or your passport before you have signed a contract. The company will need these things for the Visa process but they do not need them if you are simply applying for a job. Just send your CV and your photo.

There are a lot of people in the education field that are stand up people and do their best to make their employees as well as their clients happy and comfortable. Just remember though that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck...it's most likely a duck.

Also it is important to be flexible when working in China, many things may be different or may be done in a different way, you can never expect that everything will be the way you want it or need it to be. You will need to learn how to bend and go with the flow when working with the Chinese or in China. If you are being taken advantage of or treated in unfair way you need to remove yourself from the situation as quickly as possible. If someone is trying to force you into doing a job, is holding your passport for the duration or length of your contract or is threatening you with deportation or violence do not freak out, try to calmly deal with the situation as best you can and find help. If the situation worsens and they start threatening you with deportation or with their connections on the police force find a local person who is capable of helping you that can mediate, hopefully something can be worked out. Remember look into a place before you commit. Look at how long a school has been operating. Most of the time if a company has been around for more than 5 years they are run pretty well. In the case of a privately run franchise school make sure that they have been around for 5 years or more. If you have a bad vibe about the place then listen to your gut. If something is off, then it most likely is. Don't settle. I have interviewed many teachers and I have been up front about what we need to improve on or what we need to fix as well as what is great about us. Honesty from your employer is a very good thing. If someone is not being honest with you it may be because they are doing something illegally or it may just be that you are confusing dishonesty with the language barrier. They may not be able to explain something to you because they don't know how. Try asking in a different way. But yeah if it's obvious that they are messing with you get out.

As a foreigner working with the Chinese you will always face problems and understanding the nuances of cultural differences can be very difficult but if you are intuitive and take the time to figure out what is happening not only from your prospective but the Chinese as well it will go a long way to a good working environment.

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pumpkin
pumpkin
Posts: 14

11/4/2009
It is the ole' 30:3 rule.. If someone is unhappy they will tell 30 people. If they are happy they will tell three. I think there was a study to scientifically determine this.
Although I agree with Butler in principal, it is important for people to post their unhappy experiences and as many details as possible so that others seeking to make this investment in time and money can make well rounded decisions.

Not all Kid Castles are the same, so I dont agree that blanket statements should be made, however, I have seen several Kid Castle contracts and they were all exploitative. 36 hours per week, holding back pay during outlandish spans for probation periods (which is presently illegal according to the labor law that is posted here.) Also, anyone doing a search for Kid castle Xian can read a plethera of horror stories from various individuals.

Someone said it here recently, "If it walks like a duck.."

Maybe there is something spoecial about your franchise, but I think its up to management to market that difference and consider how important it is to associate with a brand notorious for its exploitative contracts. Just a thought.

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NoWAY
NoWAY
Posts: 48

11/5/2009
Good idea.. how about anyone who can.. post the GOOD Schools for I definitely would like to know! I have personally interviewed 13 idiot Agencies and 22 "schools" from Kindergarten thru Colleges (2 of which state their names as University.. which is Untrue.. that was the first red flag) and worked at 9 schools. I've lost only 100rmb from Training school I'll call "F", another of 225rmb at Training School I'll call "F+", yet another of only 26rmb I'll call "bad english", a Kindergarten of 422rmb I'll call "F-", and truly just stupid bad Staffing experiences at a Institute calling themselves "Harvard of the East" I will call them "Stupid minus", also, another Vocational College calling themselves a University I call as "Stupid and Cheaters as Foreign NonExperts". The kids are nearly all great.. some just ok.. and a handful from each school will do well in life under such challenges as I've never realized. IE., nearly every student new job has cheated them.. and local Police.. "they don't know" what to do.. or how to do. In Conclusion.. I've been most fortunate in my working/Teaching experiences and losses amount to 2 years of my time and maybe 1,000rmb. Oh.. Landlords.. that's another Epic! I've worked at 3 great training schools.. and two Middle Schools. I've met well over 6,000 students and most are most eager/sincere about Western Culture and use of English to make their lives best for themselves and families. This latter part has proven to be worth all the unsanitary conditions and squat toilets, rip offs, and just dirty/dusty everywhere.. I've attended 9 Chinese weddings (most are former students.. one is now a Parent)... dealing with retarded idiots Management is a job prerequisite.. Liars and Cheaters is mostly difficult to determine until It's TOO LATE! So.. post it here!! I am watching! Teaching is great.. offering new ideas and TRUTH is best! Hey.. did you see this story.. it's a bit disturbing.. but, also highly enlightening.. I learned a great deal and confirmed many of the myths.. http://www.torrentz.com/7955e9837dff468fe28b5608e234840516e33f87
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Guest
Guest
Posts: 205

12/13/2009
To all ESL Teachers working in or seeking positions in China
During my recent search for another teaching position in China, I had the disturbing, frustrating, infuriating and time wasting experience of dealing with a, what can quite simply be described as a shady, unprofessional and frankly a scam small group trying recruit teachers to unlicensed positions in China, asking teachers to enter on L Visas etc etc

Whilst this is not an unusual circumstance when dealing with teaching in China, these two girls, have absolutely no problem DECEIVING and outright lying to land the commission for your carcass

After the alarm bells began to ring loudly during the initial application phase, I decided to delve a little deeper and discovered that they were recruiting for the now world renowned FRANK ZHANG aka god knows how many other aliases.

To save you all the wasted time and frustration stay well clear of all adverts with the following usernames and emails address – as they are ALL from the same scam mob –

Faith Tang
welcomeeslchina@gmail com

ESL9
teachinglanguage2009@gmail.com

eslcitychina
luckykatrina@yahoo.cn

eslcitychina@163.com
eslcitychina@gmail.com

linda9

esljob01@gmail.com

ESL8

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NoWAY
NoWAY
Posts: 48

12/13/2009
Yes.. very good to know.. I've wasted considerable time, efforts, and money in discovering the "real education system" and English language abuses/exploitations along with severe greed. More postings to help us is GREATLY appreciated.
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NoWAY
NoWAY
Posts: 48

1/18/2010
hi.. wanted to add WallStreet English to the list of highly questionables. I've traveled a bit this winter including to Shangahai. I stepped into a Wall Street English training school and found the very nice Office settings (Western styles of course) but the reception Staff were unable to answer simple English questions though they could speak some English. The 10 or so apparent Customers seemed surprised when I immediately left when I was asked if I wanted to work there. I had seen some Native English speakers but, uncertain as to their Nationalities. And, Nothing like asking one question and getting 3 in reply. I went back again later to re-ask.. "do you have any American Teachers working here?"
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abstract
abstract
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3/9/2010
Anyone in Tianjin, watch out for a recruiter by the name of "Yu Ming Education"

This company is in my experience one of the worst in the city, are notorious for ripping off their teachers and pretty much everything that spills from their lips are lies.

Their website offers a very interesting and lucrative package. Unfortunately that is not what you will end up with, as is often the case with recruiters. They blatantly misinform the length of the holiday periods, and even in some advertisements, state a rate of holiday pay.

All in all you will end up working and being paid for around 6 months of a 12 month contract, the other unpaid 6 months can be attributed to lengthy unpaid school holidays, national holidays and cancelled classes.

Most teachers who then try to leave the company have their visa screwed, as the company will inform the PSB you no longer work there, but will not follow the correct procedure which enables you to transfer your employment elsewhere. They also hold on to your Foreign Experts Certificate from day one, I didn't even know I should have the little black book until I was stopped by the police one time and asked for it.

Avoid at all costs, despicable crooks who have no boundaries as to how low they will stoop.

Quick question though, why do the Chinese government allow this kind of manipulation and exploitation of foreign labour to continue. There are so many poor companies around, who are clearly in existence for no other reason than to take foreigners for a ride and profit out of them. China's reputation is being servilely damaged each and every time articles such as the ones in this thread are published on the net.

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mariajones
mariajones
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5/17/2010
i wonder if heaven got a ghetto

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arongqi4
arongqi4
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6/1/2010
I've seen a few posts concerning the Chinese Culture Center lately that say they were ripped off by Ms. Walker. I've used CCC 3 times and never had a problem, I've also recommended friends to use CCC as well. However, my advice to those who said they had their passports stolen when applying for the summer program is simple.... call the FBI, call the cops. Really, if you think you are ready to make a life an ocean away from home you should be able to figure this out. In anyplace, in any country, if someone personally retains possession of your passport against your consent then you need to alert the authorities.
Now, there are many scams out there. CCC isn't one of them. They are certified and recognized not only by the State of S.C. but also the corresponding agency for foreign affairs in China. Through CCC I've been invited several times by the chinese government to participate in official functions b/c I was with the CCC.
Don't listen to those that only smear other organizations while proclaiming theirs to be the best. As I've told many people thinking about going to work in China.... Look around, make sure you want to go to China and then find as many different organizations as possible and then decide.
Last, Ms. Walker has never wronged me in any way concerning the law. Nor, has she mislead me in any way. I know not everyone enjoys their time in China, that would be impossible. But, atleast when I used CCC I knew for a fact that wherever I was sent was a legit and recognized educational facility. If Ms. Walker did steal your passport or wrong you in some way, please, let me know. My experience with CCC has always been smooth enough.

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bruce
bruce
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6/2/2010
ArongQi4: Your ip address suggests you are typing from Columbia SC, (home of the Chinese Culture Center.) There is alot of information about people who were scammed by this person. You seem to be the exception.

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arongqi4
arongqi4
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6/8/2010
Bruce,
Yep, I'm from Columbia SC. The reason I'm curious about this scam is b/c out of the 10 years or so of CCC being open this is the only scam complaint I've seen on here. Nothing's impossible it but it would really surprise me. Also, I'd hardly be the exception, every year, every semester, teachers are sent through CCC and have no complaints. About half the teachers I went over there with decided to stay and use CCC again for placement. Is CCC perfect? No. Is any placement agency perfect? No. The only reason I'm puzzled about this is b/c after the complaint started she wasn't arrested for passport theft and it was written on here she was under investigation by the university here for fraud. Hmmm, no, she's not. I hope the charges of her stealing passports isn't true, thats not the CCC I and many others have known. If it is true, I hope those that were wronged do something about it.

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bunny_1013
bunny_1013
Posts: 3

7/9/2010
Below was a correspondence with Corneill School's. This is a good example of a school that you should not work at.
My email to Corneill:
I am deeply disappointed during my visit to Corneil-Shanghai today. I
>> expected to see a school full of open arms and inviting smiles. What I
>> did see was ignorance at its worst.
>> I believe it is important to hire good qualified candidates. Experience
>> and educational background along with reference and interviews are the
>> first steps. A person's skin color should be the last to be
>> considered.
>> What I have learned through my "AMERICAN EDUCATION" is that everyone is
>> treated equal, regardless of color, race, or ethnicity. I am a highly
>> qualified, certified teacher with years of experience along with a
>> degree
>> from one of the top university in the US. Instead of interviewing me
>> like
>> any other good administrator, I was told within minutes of my arrival
>> that
>> they hire only "native English speaker". I wondered what part of my
>> English was not native considering I went through Grade 1 through
>> graduate
>> school in US public schools.
>> I want to reiterate. I am very proud to be 110% CHINESE. I am proud of
>> my heritage, its language, and its culture. I am also very AMERICAN. I
>> am not ashamed to be who I am. I teach all of my students to be proud
>> of
>> who they are. I am a TEACHER and a very good one. The achievements of
>> my
>> past students and the recognition from past administrators and parents
>> reinforce that.
>> If Corneill sells itself to be an AMERICAN SCHOOL. It will need to show
>> that its staff like America is full of people of all colors: black,
>> white,
>> yellow, red, orange, blue, green, purple, ....etc..
>> Lastly, Corneill's ignorance will be their loss. A school that does not
>> value its teachers is not a school that good teachers like myself would
>> want to work for. As a parent myself, it is also not a school that I
>> would want to put my children into.
Zoe from Corneill's response:
> sorry for the unhappy experience you had yesterday but 1st,our teachers
> are supposed to work in public schools not in Corneil which means we hire
> people according to schools' needs not ours; 2nd, as what we state in the
> ad. we hire NATIVE FOREIGN ENGLISH INSTRUCTORS only, but as what you
> stated, you are a Chinese. you don't meet the minimum requirement; 3rd,
> personally i agree the part you mentioned about everyone being treated
> equal, but we all know the world never goes that way. there is nothing i
> can do apart from saving both of our time.
>
> sorry about being straightforward and wish you good luck.
> Zoe from Corneil
My response back to Corneill:
#1- I am a Chinese American. I AM a native English speaker. English is
> my first language! Your advertisement should not state that you are
> looking for a teacher. You should say "ANY WHITE FACE WILL DO!!!". As an
> educated American citizen, I do not like to get into verbal battle with
> people, especially if they do not know what they are talking about. But
> you leave me with no choice because you began this battle first. To make
> the matter worse, you are CHINESE. By being so blatantly racist, what
> does that teach your children in the future. I know I teach my children
> to be proud of their Chinese heritage.
> Back to what I want to say originally, after getting to know you, this
> "school" is not one I would want to work at or suggest others to work at
> and it is definitely not a school I would sent my children to.
> This world might not treat everyone equally, but if there are less people
> like you treating others unfairly, the world would be a much better place
> to live in.
Zoe from Corneill's response back:
I do not mean to start a verbal battle as i am doing my job,but you are
rude and start insulting people. i know i am Chinese and i am happy with
who i am, but it has nothing to do with my job because i know i am
supposed to hire western English teachers. it is not a racial issue but
you are trying to make it be.
My last reponse to Zoe from Corneill:
I think it is very evident that it is racism. I was not judged on my performance or qualification, but solely based on my skin color. If this was US, you would be sued immediately.
I have been working in the educational field for a long time. I have friends who are both in the educational field and those who work in other industries. After receiving the email I sent you and your responses back, the comments could not have been more serious. It is racism and you should be ashamed of yourself and your attitude. Knowing what kind of school Corneill is, my friends have only one comment: "WOW! Can't believe this is still happening in the 21st century!"
My parents have always taught me to learn for my mistakes. Obviously, you have not been taught the same concept. The fact that you cannot admit your mistake makes it even worse.
Once again, I keep on having to repeat myself. I am proud of who I am and I will stick up to anyone who tries to demean me and all of my accomplishments as well as the accomplishments made by Chinese people both in China and worldwide.
If you want your school to succeed, change your attitude. It's amazing what a difference each of us can make. If you don't care about the success of your school, then you should change your ad to say "WHITE PEOPLE ONLY". That way, you don't mislead teachers in the future.

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summerthescammer
Posts: 1

9/24/2010
@GUEST.

I worked for the KID CASTLE SCHOOL in HANGZHOU (by west lake) and in LINPING so my comments only apply to these branches run by a "MISS BAO" and her puppet "SUMMER FANG." I was lied to before even leaving my country, they showed me a fake contract by email then when I arrived they switched it and claimed it to be the real contract.

They lie about accomodations, they said the 1000 rmb allowance was actually included in the 7000 rmb wage they offered...which ofcourse they failed to mention previously. They do not pay for your visa even if they claim to. They dock your pay when they feel like it and make excuses for it. The first 3 months you work they dock 1000 rmb and give it back to you at the end of the year saying its for your return air fare...which they claimed they would cover in the beginning...hmm isn't that just my own money? They threaten you, blackmail you if they feel you are not cooperating with them. They do NOT provide you any assistance and only the most minimal of training. I have a friend from another school I worked at who went to work at a different branch of Kid Castle in Hangzhou run by another manager, she loved it and had no problems. My beef is with the management from these 2 branches of this school.

I managed to leave after 6 months with them abiding by the contract rules, I managed to meet the teacher they hired after me. His contract was far worse than mine and the teacher before me, and the same scam was pulled on all 3 of us! (the contract switching one...) That means 3/3 teachers in the same school were swindled in the same way and lied to in the same way one after the other.

AVOID THIS SCHOOL! AVOID SUMMER FANG! AVOID MISS BAO!!!!!!!!!!! I REALLY HOPE SOMEONE FROM THE KID CASTLE CORPORATION SEES THIS AND GETS A CLUE.

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robierox
robierox
Posts: 6

3/9/2011
Hi guys, just want to find out if anyone has been hired by Chang Chun Education Exchange Services in Jilin province. Is there anyway to verify whether the job offer is genuine? Any help will be appreciated. Cheers,

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PinkieP
PinkieP
Posts: 2

5/7/2011
Another school to be careful of is KISQ in Qingdao. It used to be a reputable school, but now it's just like all the rest. Late payments, outright lies by the owner, breaching contracts, hiring unqualified teachers who don't show up for class, so teachers who do show up have to cover for them, etc., etc. I would not recommend teaching at this school. The owner also recently promised to pay for two new teachers' working visas and residence permits. He renegged and only extended their tourist visas, which he told them to get in the first place. They have to go to Hong Kong to get work visas, but the owner didn't want to pay for their transportation. He would only pay for the visas. He told them to come to China with tourist visas and promised to get them work visas after they got there. But THEY have to pay for the transportation and lodging to do that.

The teachers laughed in his face.

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claybellows
claybellows
Posts: 2

5/13/2011
Amazing that people will do this. Thanks for the heads up.
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37coupe
Posts: 1

7/8/2011
Fuzhou is a nice city in Fujian province. HOWEVER, Fuzhou PolyTechnical College is certainly one college to avoid at "all costs." It is operated by a bunch of manipulative, two -faced old Cold War Commies who have utter contempt for westerners but appear to have money to burn. The students at the college have also been indoctrinated to such an extent that they perform sly tasks for teachers and administrators alike. Added to which, Administrators at the school do not honor contracts in the least, and have failed to pay one teacher for the final two months of their work contract. Compounding this, the school embarked on a series of lies and obfuscations so as not to pay the teacher and even maintained to and outside committee, that the respective teacher had never performed the two months of teaching at all despite a contrary view from 170 students who were taught during that two month period. FUZHOU POLYTECHNICAL COLLEGE OR
· FUZHOU POLYTECHNICAL COLLEGE 中国福建福州职业技术学院(福州大学城源阳路1)‏ Lying, two -faced, manipulative SCUM!!!

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GoldenDoorway.com
GoldenDoorway.com
Posts: 5

7/8/2011
PinkieP wrote:
Another school to be careful of is KISQ in Qingdao. It used to be a reputable school, but now it's just like all the rest.


Reputable schools may exist, but you can never count on it, and there is always corruption beneath the surface. Everybody who wants to teach in China should expect that the originally agreed upon terms will be violated in one way or another. Usually, it is insignificant things, but often it is not, especially in the private sector. Bad faith business practices are so widespread that one can only conclude that they are a norm, unofficially sanctioned and practiced from the very top of society. Last minute school switches, withheld pay, excessive work load - and the list goes on and on. I had a great experience as a teacher, but was forced to leave when my passport mysteriously disappeared from the hotel - in which I was placed after arriving to find that my promised apartment was not available. I had been at the school for only one (unpaid) month, and the "lost" passport was preceded by an incident about as bizarre as you can imagine at the hotel, which still has me baffled. I returned to Beijing, and most of my remaining months chasing a new passport and visa. I had a blast, but also saw remarkable examples of corruption.

I would not recommend teaching in China if you cannot take such incidents in stride. You are essentially powerless, except for your connections, and you can bet that your adversary has better ones, should it come to that. Contracts are usually one-sided against you, and you have no realistic way to enforce them anyway, given your disadvantages in the realm of language, time, legal knowledge, and connections. Happy talk aside, agencies are ten times more interested in pleasing the schools than in pleasing the teachers. Perhaps the best posture is that of a smiling, dispassionate observer. You will learn a lot about yourself and others, and if business practices in China are generally rotten, you can take solace in knowing that you have the option of leaving, unlike your Chinese comrades. Workers in China are expected to submit without question, and that often extends at least slightly to you, the esteemed foreign teacher. Happily, even though cheating is commonplace, threats to your physical safety are essentially non-existent, and you are much less safe in the poor section of an American city than you are anywhere in China that I have been.

Maybe I sound pretty negative, and you will be surprised to hear that I loved China, and long to return again and again. I maintain a business (Golden Doorway) advertising for teachers, that is without profit (largely due to cheating), mostly to stay involved with China. I advertise to find people who want to teach in China, and try to prepare them, and protect them by virtue of the power I have with my client agency(s). But then, I have gone through several agencies that were either incompetent or dishonest. I have one agency I really like right now, but after so many disappointments, its hard to trust anyone, and I am increasingly wondering if I should keep trying.

In summary, I recommend that prospective teachers investigate their agency and school to the extent possible (usually, not much), and try to make the contract agreeable, but retain a great degree of flexibility and tolerance. Your best protection is to establish a tight bond with your agency and colleagues. Stay cool, remain gracious, make friends, keep your eyes open, and make no enemies (especially with officials or at the school). Consider that the trials will not extend to physical security, and will be a source of conversation and laughter when you get back home. There are good ones, but be doubly wary of private institutions. Until you have been in country for several months, do not offer opinions about potentially volatile subjects (politics, religion, human rights, etc.). Assume that you will be cheated in some way or other, and calculate that into your planned visit (e.g., do not depend on the money that they promise you). That way, if you are not abused, it's icing on a most complex and amazing cake!

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Public Warning!
Posts: 12

11/27/2012
NOTE TO ADMIN: I am a volunteer at the China Foreign Teachers Union in Beijing (www.ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org) and I am one of three people assigned to collecting, sorting, and compiling the officila CFTU report on "Suspicious Schools Operating In China" since the government won't let them call it a "Blacklist". However once finished we can share it with you and you can call it whatever you like. I ask your cooperation in providing us copies of your complaints going back one year (without any real IDs of posters - just user names). We already have 3 other ESL/TEFL sites cooperating with us and when finished in January, all those who cooperated will get a copy of the list to share with their visitors (which saves us volunteers a lot of tedious emailing since we are only allowed to send out one email at a time. I hope you see the value of this? We will read each report and summarize the type of abuse in less than 300 words, and list the source of the complaint (i.e. "post from XYZ at eslteachercafe.com and provide the link). Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation. You and anyone else who wantsto help us with this project can communicate with me directly at Volunteer139@ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org

Another CFTU group is working on a list of shady agents (over 300 so far) and a whitelist (see the Whitelist section at the web site)
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mm.crosby
mm.crosby
Posts: 1

12/21/2012
I am working with a man named Bob Marcotte in Minnesota to teach English at XFU Fanyi University in Xian. Does anyone have experience with this person and/or this school?

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CFTU
CFTU
Posts: 15

12/30/2012


WARNING!
Jeff Gao aka Jeff Sya Is Now Working Out Of Chongqing

He is using the trade names of: Sya Education Education Consultancy which claims to be registered at 129 Yan-an 3rd Road, Tsingtao City, China, 256600
using the web site of www.chinatefl.cn and the following telephone numbers:
86-532-82721255 and 86-139-6969-0269 and the email address of syajeff@gmail.com Anyone having a recent photograph of Jeff is asked to email it to scams@ChinaForeignTeachersUnion.org.

As most of you all know by now, finding an honest agent or recruiter in China is like finding a 30 year-old virgin in America. Most all of our members stopped using them completely. If however you still want to use agents here is some useful advice you may want to consider:

1. Always meet with them in THEIR office, not a coffee shop which is indicative of a scam. No office? - Be suspicious
2. Never ever give them a copy of your passport or visa or you may become a identity theft victim. Give these documents only to the actual employer - personally
3. Ask them to see a copy of their SAIC registration and business license
4. Use your phone and take a photo with the agent and recruiter in case a scam develops and they deny knowing you (happens a lot guys)
5. Always ask for a business card from the agent/recruiter than has their complete Chinese name and ask to see their govt. ID card to see if it matches. If no match, write down the number on the plastic government ID card that will also have their photo.
6. Before wasting your time with an interview search the name of this recruiter here at eslteacher cafe, Google, and here http://www.chinaforeignteachersunion.org/2012/12/china-foreign-teachers-union-posts-esl.html

There are still a few honest and decent agents around but they are getting harder to find. If you follow the above advice you have protected yourself as much as possible against agent fraud. If you stumble upon a fraudulent school or agent, please let us know so we can warn others. When you have more time, but before accepting a new teaching job in China, you may want to read this article: http://www.cityweekend.com.cn/beijing/articles/blogs-beijing/expat-life/scam-alert-foreign-teacher-fraud/ and read all the horror stories you find here on this forum. The dangers are real, and yes, it can happen to you. Good luck with your teaching career in China!


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Miracle
Miracle
Posts: 1

1/13/2013
Here's another scam school to add to this long list:


Peng’s Foreign Language Training School
Employment Contract
Party A Peng’s Foreign Language Training School wishes to engage
the service of Party B _______________ as online English teacher. The two parties,
in a spirit of friendly cooperation, agree to sign this contract and pledge to fulfill
conscientiously all the obligations stipulated in it.
I .CONTRACT TERM
The period of contract is three months, which start at the date of first class
formally given by Party B. And Party B should comply with class schedule
10_ hours per week. The specific class hours are Mon. to Fri. 19:30-21:30 Beijing
time (GMT +8).
II. SALARY
Party B’s salary will be USD25 per hour, and Party A should make
payment every two weeks by e-bank transfer to Party B’s account . And Party
B should supply details of bank account in advance to Party A.
III. TRAINING
To guarantee the teaching quality and keep consistent with courses,
Party A will supply the internal teaching materials including bilingual textbooks,
dedicated software kit to Party B. Moreover, Party B should accept
at least six hours of training for new teacher by Party A before teaching.
And Part A should help Party B to be familiar with the textbook ,software,
teaching skills to Chinese students during the training period.
IV. DEPOSIT
Considering the high cost of training and complicated preparation process for every
new teacher before who can start teaching formally, to eliminate Party A’s
education resources waste and confirm that Party B is serious and credible to the
job. Party A has to charge a deposit of USD220 from Party B before delivering
teaching material and arranging training to Part B. However, after first month since
the contract started, Party A should refund the deposit to Party B within one week.
V. RULES
1.Party B should complete teaching hours on schedule basically. If need adjust the
schedule or take off occasionally, Party B should inform Party A at least 24 hours in
advance.
2. Party B should respect the Chinese people’s moral standards and customs,
and shouldn’t conduct religious activities incompatible with the status of
a teacher.
3. Party B should be patient to students with good manners, serious and
professional to this job.
4. Party A should provide Party B necessary teaching material and training to help
Part B could start teaching without technical problem.
5. Party A should conduct direction, supervision and evaluation of conditions.
6. Party A should guarantee that Party B get paid on time.
VI. REVISION, CANCELLATION AND TERMINATION OF THE
CONTRACT
1.Both parties should abide by the contract and should refrain from
revising, canceling, or terminating the contract without mutual consent.
2.The contract can be revised, canceled, or terminated with mutual
consent. Before both parties have reached an agreement, the contract
should be strictly observed.
3.Party A has the right to cancel the contract with a written notice to
Party B under the following conditions:
(1) Party B does not fulfill the contract or does not fulfill the contract
obligations according to the terms stipulated, and has failed to amend
after Party A has pointed it out.
(2) According to the doctor’s diagnosis, Party B cannot resume normal
work after a continued 15days sick leave.
4. Party B has the right to cancel the contract with a written notice to
Party A under the following conditions:
(1) Party A does not provide Party B with necessary teaching material
and training as stipulated in the contract.
(2) Party A does not paid Party B on time.
VII Arbitration
The two parties shall consult with each other and mediate any disputes
which may arise about the contract. If all attempts fail, the two parties can
appeal to the organization of arbitration for foreign experts affairs in the
China State Bureau of Foreign Experts and ask for a final arbitration.
Party A Party B
(Signature ) (Signature)
The appendix of this contract
I. DEPOSIT ACCOUNT FOR NEW ONLINE TEACHER
USD ACCOUNT (accept USD or equivalent Euro/Pound)
Please instruct your banker to transfer the funds (by T/T)as follows:
Correspondent Bank: China Merchants Bank,New York(CHIPS ABA:1455 or
SWIFT CODE: CMBCUS33XXX)
Beneficiary's Bank : China Merchants Bank (SWIFT CODE: CMBCCNBSXXX)
Bank Address: China Merchants Bank Tower 7088,SHENNAN
BOULEVARD,SHENZHEN,CHINA
Beneficiary's a/c No.:6225882900244168
Beneficiary’s Name(our school master) Dong Peng
(first name) (last name)
II. PROCEDURE FOR NEW ONLINE TEACHER
Firstly please read and sign the contract carefully, then scan it with bank receipt of
deposit, back by email. Secondly we will sign and express original contract with
teaching material to your specific address. Finally, we will arrange training courses
for new teacher who received original contract and teaching materials.

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janus911
janus911
Posts: 1

7/15/2013
Has anyone heard of NGE Summer School? Just wondering if it is a scam?

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mountainshore
mountainshore
Posts: 1

7/19/2013
I have the same question. Is NGE International Summer School Program a scam? I am not so sure but I incline to think so. Has anyone got more info?

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Olinda
Olinda
Posts: 1

7/31/2013
Hi!
I plan to go for a work to China as an ESL teacher, and I got the offer from that agency. Truly speaking they seem suspicious. I didn't send them my passport copy or other ID documents thnaks God, but send them my diplomas (in Ukrainian language).

http://www.xhgjedu.com/english/about.asp?autoid=93

Mister Vincent contacted me.
They offer me a visa type F for 6000 CNY and offer to pay for it by themselves for example and then take these money from my salary.
They still didn't send me the list of schools yet, but promised to do that ASAP.

Skype:teacherinchina1 MSN: vincentchen1988@hotmail.com

Maybe I am too suspicious but I want to be sure I am not scammed or just deceived...

Maybe you have any information about this agency....

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KCxiamen
KCxiamen
Posts: 1

8/2/2013
F Visa is a business visa, which is valid maybe for one year, IF you are in a class room and working on this Visa YOU will get bounced out the country. Along with a Fine.
You also will have not LEGAL contract, since the school is not actually employing you legally, with a Z visa you also have to sign a Government contract, which is seperate from the SCHOOL or TRAINING Centres.
For a Z visa they should pay for this an supply you the documentation BEFORE you enter in to China.
As for YOU paying for the Visa. nonsense.
6000 CNY how many hours are they asking for? what ages? what area? Are they aso paying for accommodation?
To be honest I'd say your being scammed.
a reliable school will provide all the documentation PRIOR to your arrival and will not expect ou to pay for the VISA.
Another thing the address is HOTMAIL. few chinese use hotmail for business. in fact I've yet to encounter one school that uses it or business.

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Dante
Dante
Posts: 16

8/4/2013
China Daily Mail blog is a scam recruiting front for China ESL (Rebecca Tang) and collects emails. A foreigner with a Australian accent will call you pretending to be another teacher offering a great hob that you cannot resist. He will offer you 20,000 a month, Z visa, medical insurance, and even offer to reimburse round trip air fare and provide you an apartment too! All bullshit - don't believe it! If you do he will ask for your resume, and copies of your passport and visa.

Once you send them to him, he tells you "Sorry the job was filled yesterday - I wish we talked sooner!". Within a month however, one of China ESL's people will call you with a job offer close to where you live. You may even take the gig. But from what I have been reading online, the sting comes when you find out in about 3 months (from the cops at your door!) that you you will be detained and deported if you do not pay your big credit card debt! These bastards open up bank accounts in your name and then destroy your credit.

My roomie actually got an email from this joker and she almost took the bait, but since she already bought her tickets to go visit her folks in Connecticut for a month, she postponed the interview. (Maybe there is a God after all?) I see they are on the old CTA blacklist and the CFTU blacklist as well.

This is one of the smoothest con jobs I have come across in China so far. I mean, who would suspect a foreigner with a blog that has such an official sounding name? I found all this crap about them on line...


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texaschuckle2014
texaschuckle2014
Posts: 1

1 days ago
Heed this warning regarding CZZ China in Zhengzhou, Henan Province

The owner of this outfits name is Niu Chen alias Marco and his American henchmans' name is Dana Kruzic alias Daniel. Chen previously had an
agency named Helen Group in Hangzhou. Anyone talking to this agency needs to do thier due diligence before seriously considering working for them. READ!!!
Ok let's debunk the lies, half-truths, and propaganda of CZZ.

1) Jessica Davis was the “HR director” and a rah-rah for CZZ. She was the HR manager who basically mimicked the decisions or directives of Niu Chen the owner of CZZ. She worked for about four months for CZZ ONLY because she needed a visa to stay in China. She was actually a host for a local television station in Zhengzhou. As soon as she could leave CZZ she did.

2) Niu Chen is a 24 year old punk. He cares not what his recruiter Dana Kruzic says in skype interviews to draw potential candidates to China. He WILL: Give assurances, statements, promises, and glorify positions that will absolutely be false or not followed through. He will give the lowest possible pay to teachers for assignments and pocket huge profits sometimes knowing the financial binds his teachers are in. He will ask teachers for favors and never, ever, return the favor, give 100% fruition, or give credit WHENEVER credit is due. In this current version of this business he goes by the alias Marco. Previously he was running an agency call Helen. From the past posts it is plain he was cheating, scamming, and abusing his employees.

3) Dana Kruzic is stoner who gives vague descriptions of positions with schools, company policies, procedures, and makes ambiguous references to the bonuses that a teacher can get. You will be told that there is a position waiting for you once he accepts you but the truth is once you have spent thousands to get to the P.R.C. you will 'shopped around' to various schools or training centers to see if they will accept you for a position. The description of the apartment you might be living in will not be accurate or be appropriately equipped. You might be forgotten at the airport upon arrival, or it might be changed or forgotten what position or school you were to have had waiting for you. Some of the schools will reject you if you are not from the United States or Canada.

4) The temporary apartment you may have waiting for you will be dirty with no kitchen and nothing to clean it with. The apartment you will be provided by the school may be unbelievably filthy, stinking, with no working water, and have no kitchen. It may be livable when you move in but don't count on it. Make sure that you boil the water from the tap if you use it for anything. One of CZZ’s teachers got metals poisoning because he didn’t boil the water long enough.

5) You will sign a contract that you will not be given a copy of, counter-signed by Niu Chen, and according to Chinese contract law enforceable in ANY country. It is an instrument only to be thrown in your face if you have any complaints about promised pay, over-time, or other stipulations that the company will brow beat you with to arm twist you into compliance. Understand now that you will NEVER, EVER, fulfill the stipulations of the contract to get the full amount of money you were told that you could receive. You WILL lose anywhere from 15,000 to 20,000 RMB.

6) You will be assigned a ‘TA’ or a ‘CS’ depending on the vernacular used at the time. These people are simply underpaid and over-worked company employees whose job it is to help you with things you need for the company, shopping, bus directions, or issues with your apartment. The girls are very good but the boys tend to be lazy and slick. Slick trying to work you for little things. The boys aren’t reliable and the girls do a good job. If you get contacted to do something you need to do it will be at a moments notice: moving, appointments, etc.

7) The school may or not be a school where there was a previous teacher from the agency. If it was there was probably a fall out from the teacher or teachers before. At some schools there will be a department head or subject who will be trying to eliminate the laowei (foreigner). In ANY event the students will be lazy rich kids whose parents were told that all they had to do is pay the tuition and the children are guaranteed to go to a western university. You cannot establish any discipline and there are no failing students. If you do in either case you will be complained about and back stabbed by the students AND the school. You will hear stories from CZZ such as 'the teacher was a racist' or 'the teacher got drunk every night' which if you talk to the teacher who was removed you'll find out these comments were lies. Even if the lies are debunked and the office knows the truth these will used as leverage to deny bonuses, or reduce pay, etc.

8) You will receive pay on or about the 15th of every month. Never earlier and always later if the pay day falls on the weekend. If you work some ‘other’ voluntary assignment you will receive your pay on the 20th of the following month. You WILL have days missing that you should be paid for usually regarding the first days you work. Many, many, many, of CZZ’s teachers often have unresolved pay discrepanciesthat are usually not worked out in their favor. Your first pay is held back so that the company can recover its initial fees for hiring you. You are not told this and this puts you in a position that pressures yourself into continuing working to get back your expenses from coming out to China. The most you can hope for is to break even.

9) If you attempt to stand up for yourself either to the school or the CZZ you will labeled either a ‘bad teacher’ or a ‘bad employee’. If you get angry with the office you will be threatened with: expulsion from China on a moments notice, blacklisting from China, or withholding of pay.

Final word. This post is a collection of conversations that I’ve had with the teachers of CZZ. Unless they come across this they will probably have no knowledge of what’s written here. As for me I’m fed up with the practices of Chinese agencies and have gone home to my country.





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