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4/30/2008 1:32:39 PM
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JourneyEast.org
Posts 42
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NEW CHINA VISA REGULATIONS
For those individuals working in China on business or tourist visas, make sure that your schools are taking care of the conversion issues.
The only place we are aware of that is still able to convert visas is Shanghai, China. Others will be told to leave the country to process visas and work permits.
The cheapest way to accomplish this, is to plan well enough in advance so that you are not in jeopardy of having your visa expire. Then process your visa through an agent in the USA such as ChinaVisaService.org, or http://z-visa.com PandaVisa.com is also a good visa service company.
Keep in mind, you will have to ship your passport back to the USA, and it will take 10 days to process. But it will be far less expensive than returning or going to Hong kong to do it.
The next step after you get your passport back, is to take a train to HK, get the new exit and entry stamp, and that is it.
The school will then be able to begin processing you for residence status.
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5/1/2008 9:27:48 AM
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Joe C.
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Companies that have a certain amount of paid-up capital can still obtain visa conversions on the Mainland. Since the amount is rather high, this virtually eliminates the possibility for English teachers.
If you are already in China, sending your passport back to the States for a visa is the wrong move. Upon the issuance of any new visa, the old one is cancelled. When you try exiting China on a visa that has never been used to enter China in the first place, expect considerable problems. This happened to a my colleagues son and he was prevented from leaving China for 4 days and when he was finally allowed to leave he was listed as a deportee and not allowed back in.
Fork over the extra pennies and go to Hong Kong to obtain your visa the correct way.
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5/1/2008 2:05:12 PM
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z-visa.com
Posts 46
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Joe,
Many visas companies and agents in the USA do this service (especially now during this period)
I can understand why you might think there would be an issue with that, but there is not. We've done this service for many people in this way. Many are repeat customers who have ever experienced an issue during their exit procedure. Perhaps your friend had other pending legal issues in China?
Also - Previously, when a person got an extension for their visa while in China, they too were issued a new visa by the public security bureau. They were (and are not) required to leave the country.
As someone who has done this in exactly the way journeyeast described, I would advocate for that path if the person had limited financial means and could not afford the trip to hong kong.
There are a couple of people on this board who did their visa in this way - anyone want to contribute your experience? Were there any problems when you left China?
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edited by z-visa.com on 5/1/2008
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5/1/2008 7:53:24 PM
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Keith
Posts 18
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My coworker used a visa company in the USA to do this. Very similar situation, came here on a L visa an could not change it. Mailed her passport to Oasis Visa and they did it for her and mailed it back. We went to Hong Kong together during the break and she did not have any problems leaving the country.
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5/1/2008 7:57:19 PM
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Joe C.
Posts 8
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z-visa.com wrote:
Joe,
Many visas companies and agents in the USA do this service (especially now during this period)
I can understand why you might think there would be an issue with that, but there is not. We've done this service for many people in this way. Many are repeat customers who have ever experienced an issue during their exit procedure. Perhaps your friend had other pending legal issues in China?
Also - Previously, when a person got an extension for their visa while in China, they too were issued a new visa by the public security bureau. They were (and are not) required to leave the country.
As someone who has done this in exactly the way journeyeast described, I would advocate for that path if the person had limited financial means and could not afford the trip to hong kong.
There are a couple of people on this board who did their visa in this way - anyone want to contribute your experience? Were there any problems when you left China?
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edited by z-visa.com on 5/1/2008
He had no other issue other than the visa which the PSB told him was invalid.
In fact, if you ask the PSB in Beijing, they will tell you that any visa you obtain from outside China whilst you are in China is invalid.
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5/1/2008 8:48:41 PM
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TEFL_Sue
Posts 21
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I wish I had known about this earlier. I just went to Hong Kong for a visa extension and was denied. The line was no less than four hours long and the people at the window were horrible.
One of the worst experiences I've ever had. I am going to be processing my visa while I am in China, so I really hope there wont be a problem!!! I have one question though, I was reading on your website, z-visa.com that round trip tickets and hotel reservations are required. What kind of visa can I get? Is it possible to get a 90-days visa, multiple entry?
PS> My situation is a little different. I have a z visa and resident permit that will expire in June. My contract is almost finished and I just want to get a tourist visa to hang out during the summer.
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edited by TEFL_Sue on 5/1/2008
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5/2/2008 12:07:26 AM
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Keith
Posts 18
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AS OF APRIL 28, NO MORE SAME DAY VISAS IN HONG KONG
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=62386&sid=488f1ce77f0fd19b958acf624ff8253b
Effective as of April 28, 2008, same day visa issuance in Hong Kong, either through an agent, or directly at the Visa Office, is no longer available. The MINIMUM turn-around period for all visas is now 24 hours.
Additionally, whereas the "F" visa had been previously available to businessman on sponsored trips to the PRC (which replaced the old "F" easy-to-obtain visa), the "F" visa, as of April 28, 2008, has been basically suspended in its entirety.
For those of you in or around the Greater Shanghai area who require tourist visas with extensions to tide you over through the Olympic period, there appears to be one small window still open.
Read here:
http://www.visainchina.com/faqs.htm#q7
Mind you, however, you should expect to pay premium prices for visas during this time, whether it be through an agent or at the Visa Office itself -- anywhere from 2x to 6x the normal cost.
Additionally, if you are from the one of the thirty-three scheduled countries for non-issuance of a visa, there is not much hope, short of returning home to obtain a new visa (L).
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5/2/2008 8:29:51 AM
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7095
Posts 90
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Joe is technically correct. In fact its buried in the exit and entry regulations of China. (Chinese version) The English translation is vague on the matter.
I think in this situation both posters are correct, I too know several folks who extended their visas in this way without a problem, but this loophole likely won't exist for much longer.
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5/17/2008 2:30:36 AM
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z-visa.com
Posts 46
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If you do need this type of service, please for the love of god, be smart enough to contact the company in advance and talk with a person. We got one guys passport that was expiring in a week, with an invalid application and none of the required documents to process a work visa.
Keep in mind the popular phrase:
"Your failure to plan properly does not constitute an emergency on our part. "
edited by z-visa.com on 5/17/2008
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